I live in Grey Lynn, and if ever an area needed some truth distributed to its
residents regarding climate change, this is it! Hopefully people will read it
and start to question some of the so-called “facts” regarding climate change
that have been fed to them by our media so far 🙂
Keep up the good work!
Kiwi Party leader Larry Baldock said it makes no sense to impose additional costs on every household at a time when so many are still struggling to recover from the recession.
“By now stating the ETS imposes a ‘disproportionate burden’ on every family in NZ the PM is finally admitting that the ETS is in fact taxing household budgets heavily so he can make a pretence of addressing climate change on the world stage.
“If the Prime Minister would take a good look at that ‘world stage’ he would notice that most of the players have ended their major performances and can now be seen hanging about in the wings of the stage waiting for the curtain to come down on the greatest comedy act in recent history!
“There are still the usual ‘King Canute-like’ speeches and promises to stop global warming going beyond 2 deg C, but paragraph 23 of the G8 Muskoka Declaration Recovery and New Beginnings report reveal a definite shift away from the desperate action on reducing Greenhouse Gas (GG) emissions to save the planet.
“23. While remaining committed to fighting climate change, we discussed the importance of ensuring that economies are climate resilient. We agreed that more research was needed to identify impacts at the global, regional, national and sub-national levels, and the options for adaptation, including through infrastructural and technological innovation. We particularly recognize the situation of the poorest and most vulnerable countries. We will share our national experiences and plans for adaptation, including through a conference on climate change adaptation in Russia in 2011.”
“The words, ‘climate resilient’, ‘options for adaption’, ‘plans for adaption’ and ‘more research needed to identify impacts’ should alert the reader to political speak for ‘how do we dig ourselves out of this global warming hole!’
“After all if the climate is to get warmer by more than 2 deg C by the end of this century, as the doomsaying prophets have predicted, it is hard to explain why the Global Average Temperature (GAT) has not increased since its peak in 1998 while GG emissions have continued to dramatically rise, especially assisted by the recent Icelandic volcanic eruption. To achieve anything like a 2 degree increase by 2100 we should have seen the temparature increase by at least an average of 0.2 over the past decade and nothing like that has occured.
“Instead of being admired for leading the world, New Zealand may ultimately become the laughing stock of the world because we blindly went ahead while others were starting to discern between fiction and reality,” said the Kiwi Party leader.
It is hard to believe he means this, and it is hard to believe any farmers support an ETS which takes punitive measures against farmers because their livestock produce methane, but does not factor in the rest of the methane cycle and does not give farmers credit for their role in that. The net effect of a livestock farm on the atmospheric concentration of methane is zero. The emissions in effect do not exist.
Why would any farmers be happy to pay for emissions that don’t exist?
The problem as I see it is that Federated Farmers only ever slam the ETS on the basis of cost. John Key thinks that the only issue he had to address is that of cost. His scheme has reduced the cost from Labour’s scheme so he thinks farmers will be as pragmatic as he is and accept that they are getting a good deal because it is cheaper and they should be happy with that.
Pragmatism is great if you don’t have principles, but most people do. John Key does not understand that it is not just about money it is about fairness. He wants to take money off farmers for emissions that don’t exist and that is unfair, it is an injustice, and John Key needs to be told that. The people of NZ don’t care how much it is going to cost farmers and nor does John Key. The people of NZ though are fair minded people and they do not like injustice. If they were told that these emissions are not calculated fairly, that they don’t actually exist, they would be more supportive. If they were told that forestry does not have to pay for their nitrous oxide emissions but farmers do they would be even more supportive because nobody likes such blatant unfairness.
If John Key was told that a sheep in a green paddock of grass has no effect on the concentration of methane in the atmosphere even he might find some principles in behind his pragmatic veneer and realise that farmers are getting a raw deal from his Government.
John Key needs to be told that NZ farmers are getting a raw deal from him and we need hundreds if not thousands of farmers to email him right now and tell him you do care and that he is wrong to think that farmers don’t.
His email is mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org
All you have to say is that you are opposed to the ETS. Something like this;
Dear Mr Key
I am opposed to the ETS and every farmer I know feels the same way. (say it in your own words so it is not seen as a form letter)
If you want to say more you could explain that your farm is methane neutral because as much methane oxidises to CO2 and grows grass which your animals eat, as there is methane produced. So you do not want to pay for any methane emissions an dcould he explain why you should.
You could say that you have always voted National but you will never vote for them again (I hear this a lot)
You could say that no other farmers in the world are paying for livestock emissions
What ever you say, say something it will make a difference. It only takes a minute to send an email, (maybe even 30 seconds) do it right now, click on the link, write a sentence and say your piece. John Key thinks you are not upset by his ETS lets show him how wrong he is.
A few thousand emails flooding in and he will take notice.
Dr Smith and National are doing the hard sell on the ETS. He uses all the logic he can to justify National’s position on the science of using an ETS.
From his promo;
First, can I give you the Government’s view on the science. We don’t claim a consensus or a perfect scientific understanding of the earth’s climate system. But we are satisfied that enough is known to be of concern and that action is justified to curb our growth in emissions. This is about sound risk management. New Zealanders expect governments to prudently manage risk of phenomena like earthquakes. We all pay EQC levies even though we may not need the billions that have been collected. We see managing the risk of climate change in a similar context.
Risk management is what they are calling it now, and the Government is satisfied that ‘action is justified to curb our growth in emissions’ in case they are causing global warming. A subtle change from ‘the science is settled’.
Earthquakes are real, they happen. Global warming is not in the same category.
The global problem is that mankind is burning fossil fuels and clearing forests at increasing rates, and this is changing the chemical composition of the atmosphere. CO2 levels are up 35% on pre-industrial levels already. As developing countries industrialise, these levels are set to be double by 2050 and double again by 2100.
To put our fossil fuel emissions in perspective, every New Zealander emits an average nine tonnes per person per year. Nine tonnes of CO2 is three times the volume of this auditorium. That’s each year, and is for every one of us. And the science tells us that the CO2 will be around in the atmosphere for thousands of years. It would be a brave person who would say we can carry on indefinitely doing this and expect it to have no effect on the atmosphere or climate. The considered science tells us it’s a problem.
Not a word about livestock methane. He only has an argument for fossil fuels. Yes they are changing the chemical composition of the atmosphere. (and this may or may not cause warming) But he doesn’t mention enteric methane because he knows it does not change the composition of the atmosphere. Therefore there can be no RISK of global warming from them so no need for any Government action to mange that risk.
That removes any need to include enteric methane in an ETS on the basis of the science, so it only leaves our Kyoto commitments as an argument to keep enteric methane in the ETS.
Kyoto was signed by Simon Upton of the National Government of the day and he made a monumental cock up when he included enteric methane, and he knows that. He still has a Government paid job believe it not. A third of the emissions NZ agreed to account for do not change the chemical composition of the atmosphere. They should not be in there, Kyoto in this form was a mistake and NZ should not honour a mistake. If Nick Smith wants prudent, I say it would be prudent to do the research to determine if enteric methane changes the chemical composition of the atmosphere, before spending tens of millions of dollars trying to figure out how to mitigate it.
It is not prudent for a government to fix one mistake (Kyoto) with another (including enteric methane in an ETS). We are not stuck with Kyoto, we are a sovereign nation, and we should tell the world Simon Upton cocked up, we’re sorry but enteric methane should not have been put in it and so we are out!
And any arguments that this will hurt our trade are not based on anything other than imagination and fantasy.
Nick smith has a few meetings to go, dates are
Thursday 8 July at 7.30pm
Darfield Recreation Centre, North Terrace, Darfield
Thursday 15 July at 5.30pm
Heartland Hotel, Waimea Street, Gore
Monday 19 July at 7.00pm
Call 07 5799016 for venue information
Tuesday 20 July at 7:30pm
Call 03 6831386 for venue information
Thursday 22 July at 7.30pm
Call 09 5759842 for venue information
Monday 26 July at 7.30pm
Coronation Hall, Gordon Road, Mosgiel
The one they held in Blenheim sounds as if it was quite lively, apparently they wanted to take a vote and the National MP Colin King who was chairing the meeting wouldn’t let them. Nick Smith told the media that those opposed were in the minority, and the media believed him! If anyone went along, tell us how it went.
For the meetings still happening go along if you live handy, ask the hard questions. Don’t ask about global warming because he has the answer, they are managing risk.
Ask about enteric methane, how does it change the chemical composition of the atmosphere? He should be able to demonstrate how livestock emissions from a steady source (not increased production) increases the concentration of methane.
He won’t be able to do this, to try and fudge things he might explain that yes the methane oxidises to CO2 and so there is no net increase in the methane levels but methane has a greater global warming capacity than CO2 so while the Carbon is in the form of methane you get warming. This is rubbish because you can only get warming if you increase the concentration of something. He has to show how methane in the atmosphere is increasing due to steady state livestock production. If he can’t explain it keep the pressure on him until he cracks. He is not silly he knows enteric methane is harmless, this is his achillis heel! It is also the achillis heel of the whole ETS.
If you want to embarrass the Govt and get the ETS discredited, debate with them about enteric methane, debating about global warming itself will not achieve the same result.
Keep those emails going to John Key so that he is not under the wrong impression that there is not strong opposition from farmers to his ETS.
Tell him you hate the ETS and enteric methane should not be in it.
Let us know how you get on at the meetings.
Come to a Public Meeting to learn about the ETS and the damage it will do to New Zealand’s economy. No spin, just the facts. Learn also about the back downs that have already resulted from ACT’s campaign and ACT’s strategy going forward should it go ahead.
WHAKATANE – 13 July – 11.30am, Eastbay REAP Head Office,21 Pyne Street– Rodney Hide
ROTORUA – 13 July – 7.30pm, Pig and Whistle Function Room, corner Haupapa and Tutanekai Sts, Rotorua – Rodney Hide
OTOROHANGA – 14 July – 11.30am, Otorohanga District Library Meeting Room – Rodney Hide
PAPAKURA – 19 July – 7.30 pm, Hawkins Centre, 13 Ray Small Drive, Papakura – Rodney Hide and John Boscawen
WARKWORTH – 9 August – 7.30 pm, The Bridgehouse Café, 16 Elizabeth Street, Warkworth- Rodney Hide and John Boscawen
TE KAUWHATA – 1 September, 7.30 pm, Waikare Golf Club, 66 Waerenga Road, Te Kauwhata
Check out also the front page of the June 17 Issue and page 5 of the June 22 issue.
I found an online link so that means you could use it in a newsletter if you likehttp://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627634.500-ancient-oceans-belched-stagnant-co2-into-the-skies.html
There is some interesting stuff in this magazine – not all climate change related either.
John Thompson’s letter in your Issue Number 22 was a robust response to ministerial shuffle and truth spinning.
There is something interesting about his list of top 20 trading partners, where 5 of them have a shared, limited ETS.
All 5 have massive subsidy support of their agriculture. Subsidized agriculture on EC scale produces gigantic overuse of resources for no consumer benefit. Subsidized agriculture on the European scale must be the single biggest preventable source of wasteful carbon emissions imaginable.
It’s unadulterated hypocrisy for EU/ British supermarket chains to claim they would buy less from NZ because it didn’t have an ETS but continue to happily buy from subsidized EC producers. It’s mental lunacy for our govt to insist we have to go along with an ETS because of vague threats to trade implications. We’ve lived with such vague threats since Britain joined the EU and coped by getting fitter, not by loading up the core costs of doing farm business
Our unsubsidized, pastoral based agriculture is the cleanest around and we ship the output further than anyone else for the lowest carbon-mile cost. Why doesn’t this National govt stand up for what we’re the world’s best at instead of going down to collectivist UN climate agendas.
ACT New Zealand Party
For those of you who couldn’t make it, here are some clips from the anti-ETS meetings in Feilding and Palmerston North: