Newsletter No. 32 From The NZ Climate Realists Against the ETS

Hello again Climate Realists,

Activists, Neil & Esther Henderson

Another newsletter so soon….. thanks to all contributors.

Please note that anyone wishing to attend the meetings mentioned by Robin in his Pastural Farming Climate Research newsletter, (second item below)  the RSVP date is this Friday.

Best wishes to all,

Neil and Esther

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Esther, the first trial of what many of us had thought would eventually happen. A three year project in Norfolk Island, trialling a system developed at Oxford University in the UK. It works like this…Everyone gets a card loaded with carbon units and when they buy petrol, power or food – it will not only be paid for in money but it will also come off the carbon units they are given. If people are thrifty they will have units to spare, which they can cash in. If they aren’t frugal and produce a lot of carbon and consume unhealthy foods, then every year they will have to buy extra units.

If the trial was a success, it could be scaled up to a country level and ultimately to a world level, Professor Egger said.

The full article is here

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/story/2010/10/28/carbon-trading-scheme-obesity-scu/

Richard Treadgold did some digging and found out that the carbon card scheme is voluntary.

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Pastural Farming Climate ResearchThis email from Ag ITO:

Dear Robin

Building on the success of previous climate change workshops, Agriculture ITO is running further workshops on behalf of MAF and DairyNZ for all agriculture, horticulture and forestry tutors and teachers to discuss the impacts on land management from:

-          changing climate

-          changing marketplace

-          changing legislation.

These workshops will not just introduce you to the key issues that your students/trainees must deal with on the land; they will focus specifically on how to teach your students/ trainees to manage this changing environment successfully in order to become resilient to these new pressures.

Geoff Mavromatis (the Agribusiness Group) and Sandy Scarrow (Fruition Horticulture) will be facilitating the sessions. They are free to attend and will take place from 1pm until 5pm on the following dates:

Hamilton – Thursday 11 November (tbc)

Masterton – Friday 12 November

Gore – Monday 15 November

Christchurch –Tuesday 16 November.

Venues will be confirmed once numbers have been established, so please contact Ruth McLennan on 04 381 0865 or email ruthm@agricultureito.ac.nz in order to book by Friday 5 November.

You are welcome to pass this email on to others who you believe will be interested and will benefit. Farmers and other land managers are welcome.

From Robin:

The last one I went to was a real fiasco with Dairy NZ’s Dr Clyton Moyo unable to explain his contradictory statements that steady state emissions of enteric methane do not increase the concentration of methane in the atmosphere and the statement that steady state emissions of enteric methane cause global warming because methane has a greater warming effect than the CO2. He was at a total loss when pressed to explain how something can cause global warming when it does not cause an increase in the concentration of greenhouse gas.

It was also a little heated with Dairy NZ accused of doing nothing to help farmers seek the truth about the real effects of livestock emissions.

This is quite true, but these workshops will be a little different as it is not Dairy NZ sucking on the Climate Change tit this time but The Agribusiness Group and Fruition. Good on them I say.

You will learn something by going along and you might be able to put a few spanners in the works by asking them a reasonably simple question such as the one I asked Dr Moyo.  The information they will present is MAF’s propaganda, it will not stand scrutiny and I imagine they will have difficulty if asked to defend a position that does not stack up in the real world and the real atmosphere.

It will be interesting to see what they say about farming and changing climate when there has not been any increase in temperatures measured in NZ over the last 100 years. There is also no evidence that adverse weather conditions will increase. There has been plenty of speculation about droughts and floods and even more earthquakes for goodness sake. But it is no more than speculation. Should we change our farming systems for something that some say is going to happen but there is no evidence that it will ?

If anyone is going and wants some info beforehand about enteric methane let me know what you want to know.  If any one goes along let us know what you learnt and how it went.

Robin Grieve     robin@farmcarbon.co.nz

Visit the Pastural Farming Climate Research Website… http://www.farmcarbon.co.nz/

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Dairy Cows Produce Fewer Greenhouse Gas Emissions Than Previously Reported

Much has been written about cows’ role in producing greenhouse gas emissions. (Think burps and farts.)

A 2006 United Nations report stated that livestock were responsible for 18% of these emissions. To be fair, this statistic also included land use and degradation, deforestation, pesticide use and water pollution. Cow flatulence, however, continues to incur blame (not to mention really dorky jokes).

Fear not, bovine lovers: Researchers at the University of Arkansas and Michigan Technological University have found that the dairy industry is responsible for only about 2% of all U.S. greenhouse gas emissions………………

Read full article at:

http://www.organicauthority.com/blog/organic/organic-food/dairy-cows-produce-fewer-greenhouse-gas-emissions-than-previously-reported/

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Greenhouse Gas Might Green Up The Desert

Missing: around 7 billion tons of carbon dioxide (CO2), the main greenhouse gas charged with global warming. Every year, industry releases about 22 billion tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. And every year, when scientists measure the rise of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, it doesn’t add up – about half goes missing. Figuring in the amount that could be soaked up by oceans, some 7 billion tons still remain unaccounted for. Now, a study conducted at the edge of Israel’s Negev Desert has come up with what might be a piece of the puzzle…….

Read more at: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030509084556.htm

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Chemtrails…..

There are many dramatic photographs and video clips of chemtrails on the Internet, and your innate intelligence tells you that what you see in the sky is not caused by mere vapour trails from jet aircraft, but no one yet has probed the questions: WHO is doing this and WHY. All of that now has changed.

This much-awaited documentary, by Michael Murphy, G Edward Griffin and Paul Wittenberger, is now available at YouTube in 7 parts.

Order a copy from here: http://www.realityzone.com/whatspray.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K9rXydMmfw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC5zf0uJ678
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFL60wFIc_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1UMRnoxJlw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60DCGpcsxeI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BryudkbVFhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXd_UAf3NWU

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I think there is some way to go before this nonsense is put to bed.  Cancun may be …a small step.    If politicians had started out with the aim of reducing pollution in all its forms (closing the Beehive at 1700hrs would be a start)  it would have been acceptable and achievable.  Instead,  Gore kicked off this ‘save the planet’ garbage.

A ‘little list’ of things we have been  told to do or not do:

• Plant trees (agree)
• Ride bikes  (a bike road tax then?)
• Don’t cut down trees (let them fall on your house)
• Use car on alternate days (no!)
• Use public transport (no! what if there’s none?)
• Get smaller dogs (a genetic limit to this)
• Give up meat once a week (Catholics twice?)
• Bio-diversify  (a good idea)
• Drive cars with windows shut (the ‘peak oil’ solution)
• Change light bulbs (agree – the new sort last longer)
• Stay home once a week (already do? stay home more, don’t go to work!)
• Don’t eat cattle (eat more sheep?)
• Recycle (agree)
• Re-use (agree – but not toilet paper!)
• Find another planet to live on (politicians go first)
• Take short showers (political intervention stopped it)
• Don’t use aircraft (except to go to Rio, Copenhagen, Cancun etc)
• Reduce waste (agree)
• Turn heaters off : put pullovers on (for cavemen)
• Get smaller cars (pollies excluded)
• Walk more (good for us all)
• Don’t buy from NZ ‘polluters’ (buy from Chinese ones?)

Some of these are sensible.  Many are nuts.  None will save the planet.  The planet will look after itself.

John C

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Have you ever been challenged to produce a scientific peer reviewed published paper/study to support something you are asserting that contradicts the “official” facts? Well here is a site you might be interested in. There are 800 such papers covering just about everything as far as I can tell, and more coming.

http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html

Cheers

Geof. M

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Sci­en­tists have dis­cov­ered a gene that is linked to Left-wing behaviour.True! They have….now that the gene has been dis­cov­ered per­haps we will be able to find a cure.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/8094719/Lifetime-cure-for-Lefties.html

Sci­en­tists have given mankind many bless­ings, but the dis­cov­ery of the gene for Left-wing behav­iour must be fore­most among them. For now there is a diag­no­sis, there can be a cure. Just think of it – a quick screen­ing of the unborn infant, a mild course of gene ther­apy, and hey presto! The dis­ease can be erad­i­cated within a generation.

Per­haps we are get­ting a lit­tle ahead of our­selves. But even if sci­ence falls short of an out­right cure, it should still be pos­si­ble to ame­lio­rate the symp­toms. The gene does not auto­mat­i­cally make the car­rier a Lefty; rather, it trig­gers the ado­les­cent brain’s reward mech­a­nism in the pres­ence of novel expe­ri­ences and view­points. The treat­ment is sim­ple: lock teenage suf­fer­ers in a drab room, fur­nished with the works of Hayek and Fried­man. True, their social skills will be some­what stunted. But the ben­e­fits will last a lifetime.

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Hi – something from the Tele:

…Like postcards from the future, familiar views of the capital have been digitally transformed by illustrators Robert Graves and Didier Madoc-Jones. They bring home the full impact of global warming, food scarcity, rising sea levels and how all Londoners will need to innovate and adapt to survive….

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpicturegalleries/8044199/Postcards-from-the-future-illustrators-imagine-how-London-could-be-affected-by-climate-change.html

Continuing the green theme:

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/10/splattergate-too-urgent-not-to-use-it.html

Here’s another example of Green aggression found on Jo Nova’s site (formatting as found):

“We need to hit them where it hurts most, by any means necessary: through the power of our votes, our taxes, our wallets, and more.”

“‘We must break the law to make the laws we need: laws that are supposed to protect society, and protect our future. Until our laws do that, screw being climate lobbyists. Screw being climate activists. It’s not working. We need an army of climate outlaws.’

“The proper channels have failed. It’s time for mass civil disobedience to cut off the financial oxygen from denial and skepticism.

“If you’re one of those who believe that this is not just necessary but also possible, speak to us. Let’s talk about what that mass civil disobedience is going to look like.

“If you’re one of those who have spent their lives undermining progressive climate legislation, bankrolling junk science, fueling spurious debates around false solutions, and cattle-prodding democratically-elected governments into submission, then hear this:

“We know who you are. We know where you live. We know where you work.

“And we be many, but you be few.”

http://joannenova.com.au/2010/04/greenpeace-are-coming-we-know-where-you-live/

regards
m

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Hi Neil and Esther,

Some more info on the elitists plans for us “useless eaters”.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-green-agenda-is-about-getting-rid-of-as-many-humans-as-possible

Cheers,
Rob.

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